Sunday, September 12, 2010

A murky sign about access to our street and gate on San Rafael. 9/13 UPDATE: Road will stay open

A vaguely worded sign has been taped up around the clubhouse, concerning the spraying of a green material to control the dust on the Phase 2 portion of Palermo. (Thank you to a resident for the picture.) There has been no official communication from Palermo's management company about this sign. Now residents are left to guess and guess because of the lack of real communication. Depending how one reads the sign, it could be read to say the road access will be cut off, either for one day or permanently. The road, Enterprise Way, is a real street that extends from the developed portion of Palermo all the way to San Rafael Drive, where there's an exit gate. The city required the secondary access for safety reasons. The taped-up sign in part reads: "Effective Friday, Sept. 17, 2010, No vehicles of any type will be allowed access to or on the undeveloped south end of this community due to 'gluing' of the ground surface as required by the city of Palm Springs for PM-10 dust control. This restriction includes walking with or without pets as the surface will be disturbed and break up the 'glue' which will make it less effective requiring another expensive application. We are sorry to have to restrict this area. If we observe any violation of this new policy we may ask your HOA to participate in future expense of gluing." Miss Penny Lane says: Please clear up this confusing sign because surely it can't be serious that the city-required vehicle access on the street will be blocked forever.

UPDATE: Management on Monday sent out an e-mail that should clear up the confusion that residents had about the road. They have added this sentence to the sign's wording: "PLEASE NOTE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON THE PAVED AREA TO UTILIZE THE BACK EXIT GATE ON SAN RAFAEL."

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

From what they said at the board meeting, I'm pretty certain they are referring to vehicles (including bikes) driving across the SAND as this will break up the glue. It does not mean you can't use the road. I agree it would have been nice to make this more clear.

Anonymous said...

Saw the sign too . It is poorly worded and very confusing. Typical Bushore?

Anonymous said...

They need to be more precise in the emails and sign put up. That sign says "No vehicles of any type will be allowed access to or on the undeveloped south end of this community " So we we being deny access TO the road in the south end? I don't want to be surprised on Friday and find a blockade.

Anonymous said...

I don't like the threat of "we may ask your HOA to participate in future expense of gluing." The fact is that the developer owns many units here and is using the HOA to pay for things it should, like the fire extinguishers and the repainting of the fire hydrants across the entire property. It has been residents who have cleaned up the trash, bottles, broken glass, plastic bags on the undeveloped part while the developer rep just lets the stuff sit there. We haven't bill them.

TundraTabby said...

Here is what was emailed out by DRM, with a bit more clarity than before...

PALERMO RESIDENTS
EFFECTIVE FRIDAY, SEPT 17, 2010 NO VEHICLES OF ANY TYPE WILL BE ALLOWED ACCESS TO ON THE UNDEVELOPED SOUTH END OF THIS COMMUNITY DUE TO GLUING OF THE GROUND SURFACE AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF PALM SPRINGS FOR PM-10 DUST CONTROL.

THIS RESTRICTION INCLUDES WALKING WITH OR WITHOUT PETS AS THE SURFACE WILL BE DISTURBED AND BREAK UP THE GLUE WHICH WILL MAKE IT LESS EFFECTIVE REQUIRING ANOTHER EXPENSIVE APPLICATION.

PLEASE NOTE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON THE PAVED AREA TO UTILIZE THE BACK EXIT GATE ON SAN RAFAEL

WE ARE SORRY TO HAVE TO RESTRICT THIS AREA.

IF WE OBSERVE ANY VIOLATION OF THIS NEW POLICY WE MAY ASK YOUR HOA TO PARTICIPATE IN FUTURE EXPENSE OF GLUING.

IF ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT BRUCE BUSHORE (760/285-8380)OR BRANDI SCOTT WITH DRM (760/346-1161)

Anonymous said...

Two thoughts about this sign. First, it says "If we observe any violation of this new policy we may ask your HOA to participate in future expense of gluing." Does this make it sound as if Enterprise might still be around in the future? I think that would be good. Second, if Enterprise doesn't buy back the property at auction, then MB Financial will get it, and either kept it for a while or sell it off, so then whatever Enterprise is saying on the sign doesn't even matter. But my question about that is: Will the next owner try to claim that the road and exit gate aren't ours?

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Tabby. I didn't see your comments. We must have been posting here at the same time!! I'm glad the access issue is cleared up. My guess is they read the comments here and amended it. Another good service from our Penney. But I'm still wondering about the next owner who takes over from Enterprise. The road, gate and retention pond were part of a single development plan and both parts were considered a single lot, regardless of the phases of development. The HOA needs to make sure that our interests our protected. I recall Enterprise asking the city to let it out of its bond held for future improvements to Palermo and Murano Palm Springs. The council said "no" and talked about the "ramifications of the developer walking away," so it denied the request. Our Penney should have the material and maybe post it. Maybe that weird vague sign could help us in the long run to get us thinking about this stuff.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Bruce B. and our friends at Enterprise -- you don't deliver on a dog park, tennis courts, a third pool, Koffi retail center at the corner, public art, but now you say: IF WE OBSERVE ANY VIOLATION OF THIS NEW POLICY WE MAY ASK YOUR HOA TO PARTICIPATE IN FUTURE EXPENSE OF GLUING. So now, we have NO place for our pups. Promises, promises. You can ask us to pay for it now as soon as you deliver the dog park you promised.

Anonymous said...

To 8:45 p.m. above: Yes, yes, yes. Couldn't have said it better.

Anonymous said...

The gluing didn't take place on Friday - lots of moving dirt, though, did happen this week. Seemed like they hired undocumented workers to do the jobs, according to one guy I spoke to. Did Enterprise Chicago approve that, or just BB?

Anonymous said...

To the 8:45 p.m. comment: You said it. HOA after that sign should make claim to large part of the "back lot" for road, water run off, promised dog park. swimming pools / tennis courts. Do we have a lawyer doing this????? HOA must protect our interests. WE HAVE A CLAIM. And thanks BB for waking us up with you sign. Love it.