Thursday, December 8, 2011
Cities cracking down on short-term rental taxes
Positively Palermo has received concerns about short-term rentals, including a case in which an owner apparently on multiple occasions has rented out to 10 or so people, causing problems for neighbors. Rentals under 30 days are against the condo rules. Short-term rentals also need a permit from the city and must have taxes paid on them. Now the newspaper has an article saying cities are cracking down such rentals and pointing out that those who don't pay taxes have an unfair advantage of business owners/employers who do. The article states: "Several Coachella Valley cities are boosting their revenues by proactively tracking and taxing short-term vacation rentals. Cities already receive money from desert hotels, which pay a transient occupancy tax, also known as the “bed tax.”But short-term vacation business is tougher to track because owners who are not affiliated with established rental management companies tend to operate under the radar.Palm Springs, the first valley city to spot this growing travel trend, passed laws in 2008 to require landlords or owners to register their individual properties and pay bed tax, and limit occupancy.The law also set up specific rules on loud parties and trash and created a hotline. “Its mission isn't only meant to drive up TOT revenues," Palm Springs Mayor Steve Pougnet said. “It levels the playing field for rental agencies and hotels. It gives the city oversight over who is renting the property and how it's being managed. ”Palm Springs' laws since have inspired communities such as Rancho Mirage to become more proactive in collecting the rental property tax.“Vacation rental has become a big item,'' said Palm Springs Finance Director Geoffrey Kiehl. “We are up to $2 million in revenue from this segment of the tourism business. ”As of 2008, Palm Springs has seen its bed tax revenue from short-term vacation homes, condos, casitas and flats grow from $1.4 million to more than $2 million annually.The number of private individuals registered to rent to visitors has nearly doubled — rising from fewer than 200 people to more than 375 in the city. Another 790-plus short-term sites are licensed through various Coachella Valley property rental companies.These agencies work hand in hand with the city to help with enforcement." Miss Penny Lane says: Everyone wants to stay at Palermo.
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I encourage anyone with info to give it to the city so we can get this lost tax money topaz for roads and schools. You can print out the ads on the Internet and give them to the city.
I hope also that the next HOA board looks into if the short term policy has been applied to all and, if not, why some individual units haven't been stopped by management and any possible reasons for this. Just a good exercise. SOP. Thanks.
Thanks for the 411. Gonna look on the Net and send em in. Tired of the short terms breaking the rules for me.
Do we get a lot of Short Term rentals at Palermo? On average how many do you think we have annually?
There are at least 5 on Sandy Point and Sunburst. Do any have tax numbers with the city?
Sandy Point? That is a surprise to me. I know everyone who lives here, there are only long term rentals and owners.
The two I found on VRBO offer weekly rentals but I know without knowing the address it is going to be difficult to know who they are unless someone recognized the owners phone number or profile picture.
I havent lived here long enough to know who may or may not be renting weekly but I hope this gets solved.
@11:04 pm - I'm sorry, but I simply do not understand what you are saying in your comment.
So where are the units? Share the links, or go home, baby.
This is such a non-issue. Short term rentals occasionally bring in partyers, but for the most part bring in wealthy people and money for the community. It also brings up home prices, which are still falling precipitously. We should be embracing it, not outlawing it.
Pougnet is a tool of the hotel lobby. There is no reason to let the prices fall further here relative to more forward thinking communities. As prices keep going down, rents will come down also, and we are already getting a lower class of full time renters here.
LOL, short term rentals raise property values. That's a new one. It is not a "non-issue" as they are illegal per the condo rules we all agreed to, and you need to have a tax permit or it Palm Springs it is a misdemeanor. The Sandy Point rental is not bringing "wealthy" but loud disrespectful noisy partiers.
Here are the two VRBO Units:
Palm Springs Villa - Quiet, Contemporary, Luxurious - Palermo [#323966]
http://www.vrbo.com/323966
Spacious Modern 2 Bedroom Palermo Villa End Unit Palm Springs - Palermo [#288673]
http://www.vrbo.com/288673
The reason nearly every HOA in the valley restricts rental to under 30 days is because they are hurtful to property values, to community buildings and pools and assets, cause security problems, hair quality of life through noise and illegal parking. You bought here knowing the rules, so follow them --- or move or work to get a majority of owners to change the rules. What kind of example are you setting for your children breaking the rules and causing problems for your neighbors. WWJD?
@11:58 I would hate to imagine your explanation behind the meaning of "lower class"
yikes
@ 2:38 I agree WWJD?
I have been living on Sandy Point for 4 months and I don't know any "noisy partiers", in fact the street is as quiet as a mortuary. It would be nice to get a few partiers once in a while just to see signs of life.
WWJD? Does he pay part of the HOAs? Who cares. We don't live in a theocracy.
"lower class": loud and trashy. People who put their washer/dryers on their sundecks.
The sandy point one is the one that during the music fest advertised "sleeps 10 with mattress" to the 4 month tenure person, good for what you want, but i did not move here to live next a party crash pad. I counted on the condo rules a d city law mea ing something.
The sandy point one is the one that during the music fest advertised "sleeps 10 with mattress" to the 4 month tenure person, good for what you want, but i did not move here to live next a party crash pad. I counted on the condo rules a d city law mea ing something.
@ 5:15 Understood!
I'm more concerned with the long-term rentor that snores so loud that I can hear him through my walls at night.
All the dog poop that pet owners don't scoop is what makes Palermo look "lower class." Why don't you all put your energy toward the irresponsible folks who are lousy neighbors? There's dog poop all over the place...disgusting.
Always think it is funny here when someone tries to deflect. Sure, dog poop is a problem but that has absolutely nothing to do with the illegal short term rentals that violate the condo rules and city criminal laws. Two wrongs don't make a right. What would your momma say?
Such animosity. Are we really encouraging neighbors to turn in neighbors? How about doing the adult thing -- talk to people directly if there is a problem. I find that people are usually respectful and respond appropriately.
Get ready on Sandy Point for another party crowd of short-term renters at year's end. 10 people to a town home like in the past? Why isn't something being done? Help! I needy sleep.
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